From faik at djikic.com  Wed Jun  2 12:54:24 2010
From: faik at djikic.com (Faik Djikic)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 12:54:24 +0200
Subject: [Xitami] Old versions
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Dear Sir,
thank you very much for your reply.

My name is Faik Djikic and I'm the author of the server-side scripting tool 
WhizBase. Our tool is a hypertext preprocessor (for detailed information 
I'll send you an URL - I do not want to spam the list), and by its nature it 
requires web server to run. It works perfectly with Windows version of 
Xitami 2.5 (actually I've tested it with version 2.5c2), but there are few 
problems with instructing our users (and specially trial users) to install 
it themselves:

1. I do not know where installation package can be found (downloaded)

2. My users are true beginners in web development and installing IIS that 
they get with Vista or Windows 7 is a rocket science for them (It's not a 
joke, our software is truly simple and efficient and it also includes free 
wizard style tool for publishing the database using WhizBase, so they can 
use Whizbase but can not do the web server setup). Downloading Xitami and 
modifying xitami.cfg is mission impossible for most of them.

3. Most of them do not know why they need a local web server, so it's not 
likely they will bother to download and install local web server, they will 
rather say that my product does not work for them give up trying (there's 
nothing to start from start menu without web server)

What I want to do is to include just basic Xitami files in our setup 
package, install it silently (if user selects "Development files" 
installation package) create small exe that will start Xitami when user 
wants to see the examples or when he wants to use wizards, and that also 
will stop the Xitami when user closes the browser or wizards. So they would 
be using Xitami web server but they would not be installing it separately.

We would not modify xigui32.exe in any way and beside that file 
(xigui32.exe) we would distribute only xitami.cfg and xitami.aut.

So, my question is - can we have your official permission to do that.

Our software is a commercial solution (not GPL) but it is by default 
registered (free) for use on non-profit domains: *.org, *.edu, *.org.xx and 
*.edu.xx  (international and national org and edu domains).

Thank you for taking the time to read my mail and consider our request.

Best regards,
Faik Djikic
DSD WB Team
Skype: dsd.faik
MSN: faik at djikic.com

PS. I was not able to contact you directly to ph at imatix.com (tried twice)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pieter Hintjens" <ph at imatix.com>
To: "Xitami Users General Discussion" <xitami at lists.xitami.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Xitami] Old versions


> Hi Faik,
>
> Legal status is the source code is (c) iMatix and unsupported.
>
> You don't need permission to distributed modified packages, just make
> sure you publish the source code of any files that are licensed under
> the GPL or another open source license.
>
> Contact me directly if you need more details: ph at imatix.com.
>
> -
> Pieter Hintjens
> iMatix
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Faik Djikic <faik at djikic.com> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Please can anyone tell me what is the status (legal regarding usage and
>> distribution and technical regarding support) of the previous versions
>> (v.2.5x)?
>> Also, to whom I might write to ask for a permission to distribute 
>> modified
>> installation package of version 2.5x?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Faik Djikic
>> DSD WB Team
>> http://www.whizbase.com/ - make web database with few lines of code
>> Skype: dsd.faik
>> MSN: faik at djikic.com
>>
>>
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>>
>
> 


From ph at imatix.com  Wed Jun  2 14:08:29 2010
From: ph at imatix.com (Pieter Hintjens)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 14:08:29 +0200
Subject: [Xitami] Old versions
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	<A483CA3CBC3C40F7BB5B6D8078FB6BE9@desktopfaik>
	<AANLkTik-DGLYq35S0larFP43F3p-wJt5kp1_5BV4g2UC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilXUvT86pNm8XO_5KVro0MLHpU5eb8N_Kwdlj7C@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry to have missed your earlier emails.  Xitami is GPLd and you can
redistribute it freely under this license. So, yes, you can package it with
your product but you do not need our explicit permission for that.

Glad to hear Xitami is still useful.
-Pieter

Sent from my Android mobile phone.

On Jun 2, 2010 12:54 PM, "Faik Djikic" <faik at djikic.com> wrote:

Dear Sir,
thank you very much for your reply.

My name is Faik Djikic and I'm the author of the server-side scripting tool
WhizBase. Our tool is a hypertext preprocessor (for detailed information
I'll send you an URL - I do not want to spam the list), and by its nature it
requires web server to run. It works perfectly with Windows version of
Xitami 2.5 (actually I've tested it with version 2.5c2), but there are few
problems with instructing our users (and specially trial users) to install
it themselves:

1. I do not know where installation package can be found (downloaded)

2. My users are true beginners in web development and installing IIS that
they get with Vista or Windows 7 is a rocket science for them (It's not a
joke, our software is truly simple and efficient and it also includes free
wizard style tool for publishing the database using WhizBase, so they can
use Whizbase but can not do the web server setup). Downloading Xitami and
modifying xitami.cfg is mission impossible for most of them.

3. Most of them do not know why they need a local web server, so it's not
likely they will bother to download and install local web server, they will
rather say that my product does not work for them give up trying (there's
nothing to start from start menu without web server)

What I want to do is to include just basic Xitami files in our setup
package, install it silently (if user selects "Development files"
installation package) create small exe that will start Xitami when user
wants to see the examples or when he wants to use wizards, and that also
will stop the Xitami when user closes the browser or wizards. So they would
be using Xitami web server but they would not be installing it separately.

We would not modify xigui32.exe in any way and beside that file
(xigui32.exe) we would distribute only xitami.cfg and xitami.aut.

So, my question is - can we have your official permission to do that.

Our software is a commercial solution (not GPL) but it is by default
registered (free) for use on non-profit domains: *.org, *.edu, *.org.xx and
*.edu.xx  (international and national org and edu domains).

Thank you for taking the time to read my mail and consider our request.


Best regards,
Faik Djikic
DSD WB Team

Skype: dsd.faik
MSN: faik at djikic.com
PS. I was not able to contact you directly to ph at imatix.com (tried twice)



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